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Skunk Ape
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I personally think this is an important thread,and want to make it clear that I hold no ill will to any man who votes,thank God we live in a country where we can speak our minds without getting a visit from the police.Without freedom of speech there would be no right to keep and bear arms.I personally voted for Huckabee in the primaries,we need a flat tax,everyone pays there fair share,illegals,welfare collectors,everyone. No free rides,imo I think if everyone paid there fair share this country would start rebuilding itself

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Iluv2hunt
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I voted for him too

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Anonymous
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i am with you about taxes. i been paying since i was 13 ...

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vonnick52
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In my opinion, most of the people who voted for Obama only listened to his talk....didn't read up on any of his policies.....didn't check into his past voting record....nothing.

Hey HonestJim, how do you feel about gun rights? Here's how Obama feels:

-Hale DeMar, a 52-year-old Wilmette resident, was arrested and charged with misdemeanor violations for shooting, in the shoulder and leg, a burglar who broke into his home not once, but twice. Cook County prosecutors dropped all charges against DeMar.

In March 2004, the Illinois Senate passed Senate Bill 2165, a law introduced in response to DeMar's case, with provisions designed to assert a right of citizens to protect themselves against home invasions, such that self-defense requirements would be viewed to take precedence over local ordinances against handgun possession. The measure passed the Illinois Senate by a vote of 38-20. Barack Obama was one of the 20 state senators voting against the measure.

Governor Rod Blagojevich vetoed the bill. On Nov. 9, 2004, the Illinois Senate voted 40-18 to override Blagojevich's veto. Again, Obama acted against the bill.

On Nov. 17, the Illinois House voted overwhelmingly, 85-30, to override the governor's veto and Senate Bill 2165 became law.

-A quote:

Q: Is the D.C. law prohibiting ownership of handguns consistent with an individual’s right to bear arms?

A: As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can’t constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.

-Another quote:

April 11th produced "Bittergate." The Huffington Post website posted an explanation Obama gave at a private fundraiser in San Francisco of the challenges he faced with working-class voters in Pennsylvania and Indiana. "It's not surprising they get bitter," he said, referring to decades of constrained economic opportunities. "They cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

-In 2000:
Obama sought moderate gun control measures, such as a 2000 bill he cosponsored to limit handgun purchases to one per month (it did not pass). He voted against letting people violate local weapons bans in cases of self-defense, but also voted in2004 to let retired police officers carry concealed handguns.

-Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:
-Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.
-Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
-Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.

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vonnick52
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All of that was taken from this website: http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm

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