Damned glad to see that I'm not alone in my beliefs. I saw a video of Red Skelton where he goes over each word of the Pledge of Allegence. I've never heard it put more eloquently (ok. I know...wow, big word). And Ben Franklin put it clear with what he talked about term limits. It's up to the voting public to determine how long a senator or any other elected official gets to stay in office. We don't need term limits. We just need to get the word out to all voting Americans to get out and perform their civic duty. The U.S. Constitution says it very clearly..."We the people" . Nowhere in that sacred document, written in 1782 does it say "We the Government". And, there is one particular sentence in the Declaration of Independence that I hold near and dear to my heart.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."
Kemster your vote does count. If we didn't electoral college all the big city's and high density populations would elect our Presidents,the rural folks would have no chance.Could you imagine the people in Cali and NY electing your President? :taz :taz :bigfinger :bigfinger
Kemster your vote does count. If we didn't electoral college all the big city's and high density populations would elect our Presidents,the rural folks would have no chance.Could you imagine the people in Cali and NY electing your President? :taz :taz :bigfinger :bigfinger
Great point! But I understand both sides of this. When you boil it all down, the real issue in this nation is the two-party system. There are far too many people, and far too diverse of upbringings, lifestyles, and belief systems to make them all happy.....or even most. With the two-party system, you are forced to vote for the lesser of two evils, neither of which have a goddamn clue about what it's like to be a hard working American and are only in the position they are in because they have money, friends, media, and in some cases, great rhetoric that is capable of fooling everyone.
there are more than 2 parties involved. vonnick52. only 2 parties get taxpayer dollars to campaign with.
S.A. -- if no ONE showed up to vote, would you still get a president??? not even one person. yes, you will still get a president. the point i was making (DEWEY vs. TRUMAN) Dewey won that election, by peoples vote (by us, for us). but the electoral college voted for Truman to win. IMO the electoral college should go away, and leave it up to a straight up citizen vote. think about it. all these years of elections since television has been around. how are the news channels able to get info so quick on how a certain states polls are going??? and they will declare a winner in a state before ALL ballots have been tallied in that state. makes you wonder. granted most of the time, yes the electoral votes and the peoples votes do pick the same winner. but a system that even allows 1 time, a candidate to win, that did not win the peoples vote, is flawed.
we need a prez.that is one of us and came from or roots.Im kinda staying out of this for a bit having BP probs and Allen cant share for reading all this
yes, hellbilly, we need a president. but take out the middle man (electoral college), leave it up to us to elect and level the playing field for candidates that arn't democrat or rebuplican. JMO
