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I sleep in my Vipers. I never fear of falling out of them. You can adjust them to sit straight up or lay out in them. I dont have anything bad to say about a Summit. I even love thier customer service. The paint was chipping off of the corner on one of mine, I called customer service and asked if they had any other reports of it and they said no. So they send me a can of spraypaint to touch it up.

nice.. yea im getting my titan this year.

the paint thing i just had eric call the factory and the replaced it with a brand new one. it will need a little sound damping but beside that am a big man so i need a big treestand it only weights 24 pounds.