Look a coward is a coward. Just because most of us are gun owners, and love guns. Does not help the cause of us responsible gun owners when a pus plugs a kid for his own stupidity. It actually hurts our cause. When you got some guy that thinks he is the utmost authority on guns sounding arrogant in the right to use 1 any time he feels fit. It hurts our cause even more so. Sorry I see a trend on most hunting forums where some one plugs a would be thug, and the mass of hunters jump on the bandwagon. Trust me this publicity is not helping your hunting rights a bit. To a lot of the public we are just gun toting thugs!
Hunting rights? How about 2nd Amendment rights. If they take those away, you'll be lucky to own a bow and arrow. Let's just imagine the verdict was different and they found him guilty, do you think that would have an impact and possible change to the "Stand your ground law" in Florida. You bet it would have. Was Zimmerman stupid and go a bit to far, probably, but when he felt his life was threatened, he terminated the threat, plain and simple.
yes sir, and remember it was a gated community. he seen a person that didn't fit or never seen there before and the people there have been robbed several times and also a home invasion. If you don't ask what there doing there you become part of the problem.
Folks I'm not a expert. and I wasn't a witness of this action, a couple of points 1 what would have been said if TM wasn't just a kid walking home and he was a burglar or with home invasion on his mind, what would we be saying about GM for just calling the Non Emergency number? 2 what if TM who was taking kick boxing lessons , ran home when that Cracker was following him? This subject can go on ...No One can say what they would really do unless put in the same situation.. But the right to protect ourselves is our right, 2 wrongs don't make a right.. so lets not get all hot and bothered on our forum.. we all love guns weather we have a CWP or Hunt with them.... Lets all be satisified that there was a trial and he was found innocent, by a jury after hearing all the evidence that was available to them... :proud
well I guess I called it. while watching bits and pieces of the TM/GZ trial listening to Travons female "acquaintance" testify and get caught in lie after lie, I lost count. those of you that followed it more closely should know. I half jokingly said to my wife "watch this girl, she's gonna end up with her own reality tv show". well maybe not just yet. she avoided perjury charges, how/why? you tell me. not only no perjury but she has been given a free 4 year college scholarship ALL EXPENSES PAID! that is if she can pass her GED. who knows how far she can parlay her 15 minutes of fame. REWARDED FOR LYING. if I got that I'd be rich.
Just my $0.02 worth from my observations...
1. We used to be a nation of law where the legal process ruled the country. Even the smallest guy had the rules of law behind him and allowed him to fight the biggest guy. It was not perfect system and we all knew it but we also knew it was better than anything else. Now we are becoming a nation of mob rule. We want to reward illegal immigrants by letting them become legal while those wanting to enter this country legally wait years and spend their life savings to do so. Now the federal government wants to get involved in a state matter that was settled just to appease a mob. In a nation of law we do not sacrifice an innocent to appease the mob.
2. We as a country has improved the racial relations between various races in last 50 years. We don't have the overt racism of past and most people try their best not to be racist. However for some the racism is something to make into business and they have no reason to improve the race relations. By keeping the tension high on the issue of race they make money. These people have sold their soul to the devil for money.
3. We used to depend on our journalist to keep us informed of news. We used to get the facts and we would form our own opinions based on those facts. Journalist were never truly neutral and we knew it but they tried their best to not let their personal bias get into the story. Now we no longer have journalism, instead we have entertainment programs catering to various segments of our society. We have conservative, liberal, black, Hispanic, etc. entertainment programs calling themselves news programs.
4. I think people have forgotten how to think for themselves. We used to take information and process it in our brain and form our opinion. Now we expect our entertainment programs to digest and give us their opinions which we hold as our own. We are slowly becoming a nation of idiots.
We always knew our country and system was not perfect but we knew it was better than anything else in the world and took pride by that knowledge. Now we see our country and our system slowly (maybe not so slowly) being destroyed by those of us on the outside and by those on the inside for personal gains. The country is being torn apart and crumbling down.
It's a sad state for those of us who are trying to improve it.
God help our country because I don't think anyone else can save it from it's destruction.
http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/326700/full-transcript-zimmerman.pdf
Idk how accurate that is, but I feel Zimmerman did the right thing, and I really feel bad for him right now. His life is changed forever for simply doing his job. And he didn't even seem 100% sure about his race, proving race had nothing to do with it. "He looks black," not he IS black. Seems like that was insignificant to GZ.
And to get something straight, pursue and follow are two completely different terms. Google them.
Zimmerman was doing his job, and imagine if the cops show up and you just say "oh he got away." Cool, what did that solve? I feel him just letting TM get away when he looked suspicious would defeat the purpose of having a security guard. Zimmerman FOLLOWED TM, not pursued him. He wanted to be able to tell cops where he was when they showed up.
I hate to say this, but imagine if TM survived. I wonder how the case would have went down. I think a lot of lying would have been done, as it already was done by his parents.
